Episode 72: In Which Unfucked Sound Meets A Fucked World

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The longest episode ever! – 2:00: People pleasantly surprise Bellamy; 7:55: More bird-killing goo; 9:35: Genetically modified trees – it’s happening; 20:13 Bellamy dissects the Zoltan Istvan interview by request; 34:00 Rydra interviews poet Paul Murufas; 01:09:35: Resistance news; 01:16:25: Fukushima gloom and doom; 01:21:45: Addiction – society causes it! 01:32:13: Pornography addiction; 01:47:50: listener’s story of traveling in Japan; 01:51:05: more on human nature, ideology, and anarcho-primitivism.


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2 Replies to “Episode 72: In Which Unfucked Sound Meets A Fucked World

  1. I was listening to episode 72:
    I don’t why but for some reason you had a young anarchykid who was like 21 on show who said he was going to college but didn’t know why. Here is an explanation why, and why people are addicts who cannot be alone with their unadulterated thoughts from a non-anarchist(by necessity since anarchists are all about playing anarchist games and cannot touch on real social processes like this below):
    (Available in audiobook form: http://www.ascentofhumanity.com/audiobook.php )
    “On an individual level, the anxiety theory purports to explain boredom as follows: we really cannot afford to sit there and do nothing. If life is a competition for survival, then our genes should drive us to make the best possible use of each moment to augment our chances of survival and reproduction. Sitting around doing nothing goes against our genetic programming, which generates feelings of discomfort that impel us to do something productive.” …

    “Every semester at Penn State I take a poll of my students, and ask them to complete the following sentence: “I am at Penn State . . .” (a) to get a degree so I can get a good job; (b) because my parents expect me to and I don’t want to let them down; (c) I don’t know, college comes after high school; (d) because this is where I can satisfy my thirst for knowledge. Semester after semester, a consistent 70-90% of the students choose “a”. “B” and “c” typically draw 5-10% of responses, while “d” averages 2-5%. In other words, most of the students are at Penn State because they feel that they have to be here—have to be here in order to get a degree, which means a secure job, which means money, which we need for the basic necessities of survival: food, shelter, and clothing. “In other words,” I tell them, “you are here at Penn State, at least in large part, due to survival anxiety. Hey, it’s a beautiful day! Why don’t you spend the afternoon playing frisbee? Why don’t you go hang out with your friends? Why don’t you play your guitar on Old Main lawn? Is it because you love your classes and studies so much you cannot tear yourself away from them? Hey, you are young. Why don’t you travel the world?” It is because they feel they “can’t afford to”, that it isn’t practical, that it would somehow interfere with their ability to achieve financial security. And even these are mere rationalizations for an ambient dread and guilt that informs their every moment of leisure. I gave a class assignment requirig students to go home and spend 15 minutes doing absolutely nothing. One student wrote, “Pretty much the whole 15 minutes all I could think about was what work I could have been getting done.” This is a typical response.

    “Because our culture so closely associates money with survival, the refrain “I cannot afford to” gives us a glimpse of the survival anxiety that underlies so many of our life decisions, large and small. “I cannot afford to” is certainly not confined to contexts involving purchases. It points to the monetization of all life. As the sphere of monetized human activity grows, so also grows the pervasiveness of the anxiety arising from a scarcity- and competition-inducing money system. To choose based on what we can afford is to choose from a position of lack.” ….

    Your talk on addiction was pretty good. You guys should adopt more of that talk and less talking about stupid anarchist cos-playing. If you were not exposed to Gabor Mate, and instead only read low-quality anarchyist zines and “for anarchist audiences” only authors like Zerzan, etc., your views on addiction likely would have pedestrian and embarrassing like most anarchists.

    Here is a good talk by Gabor Mate, you may not have heard and a summary I sent to my addict friends about it:
    “Unlike mainstream medical orthodoxy, Gabor Mate says our
    society makes almost everyone sick, that sickness is a byproduct of
    capitalism. And this sickness makes people seek to live out patterns
    of compensation like addictions instead of the authentic life they
    want. Another important distinction Gabor Mate notes is that many
    native cultures used drugs like ayahuasca to heighten their awareness
    and have visions, however in our society people use drugs to numb
    themselves from the world and continue to cope with societal
    mechanisms that don’t account for our human needs.

    “One of the big reasons for the epidemic of addiction he says is that
    it is a problem of orientation. The youth in our society,
    unprecedented in all previous history is oriented to other youth and
    not adults. This is because starting in the 1960’s more and more women
    were forced to enter the workforce and there is no time for the old
    ways, where parents and other adults would watch children. Gabor
    points out that in certain African villages still today the children
    call all adults as “uncle” or “aunt”, because the culture there has an
    extreme orientation of children to adults and thus almost every adult
    is like a caring relative. In our society parents are too busy working
    so the kids are always around other kids and modeling their behavior
    and development from their fellow imperfect and still developing
    beings. Kids who are oriented to their peers try to act out badly and
    pick up vices like drugs, but kids oriented to adults don’t behave the
    same way. I know that when I was doing drugs I picked up the habit
    from peers like blank one and blank two, and my
    parents and their parents all frowned on our drug use. I think our
    parents knew best on that, but we oriented ourselves away from their
    good counsel.”

    In general the more you talk about anarchism, the worse your show and discourse will be, since anarchism is only good for “feeling anarchist” and not a source of useful analysis and praxis.

    — Nicholas V.

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